a few ideas and questions

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:06 am

ok so people in these Forums obviously know how the install for YDL6 for the ps3 works i have a couple of issues that im not share how to resolve and a couple questions i would like answered from some one who has play with the PS3 YDL6 a little bit more

Issues:

when i origonaly installed YDL on the PS# there are 2 things i set it up for and both of these have to do with my issues A) making the wireless work at the pain of the install my PS3 was using the hard wire LAN on the platform so obviously i set only the required fields for the wired connection and skipped the wireless set up portion of the setup (wrong choice) any how i need a little help or in detail instructions how to fix this from the YDL desktop or where to find the files to fix the fields.

obviously when i set up YDL it was on a standard tv so i followed some instructions ( dont recall what ones) to make it so the obviously/size of the screen would be fixed how ever when i tryed to set the screen res it wouldnt allow me too ( parabley just miss typed something some where or something being a linux noob) any how i said ok what ever and continued regardless (resulting in a crappy yet correctly fitting image on my TV)well now i have a HD tv and am stuck with a rather square looking image in a wider TV rather annoying does any one know how to fix either of these issues (ill try to find what exactly i did to change the screen size in the mean while)

i think this is really close to what i did all tho i know its not taken from the same thread as i used to install ill keep looking tho:
To do so edit the file (as root) /etc/kboot.conf

Change the line "default=ydl" to be "default=ydl480i".

General questions:

any one who has a PS3 knows that u have to either choose 10GB for the PS3 or 10GB for linux (im a gamer i chose 10GB for linux) any one that owns a ps3 also knows that the HDD can be freely upgraded how ever you are still left with the same choices regardless of the HDD size in the PS3.

i know in windows u can change partition size freely with acronis so i performed a google search for a version of acronis that runs on linux and found http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/ATISLin/ does any one know if i can resize partitions on the PS3 using such a tool as acronis so i may have more HDD space than 10GB to become fermilar with linux a little bit more?

my other general questions are pretty simple i have some PC games that i believe have linux ports like quake 4 maybe (unshare) and im also unshare of some steam games as well all tho i do know i can run a linux dedicated server for CS from linux (ive seen multiple results when googling how to do this w/ a win based pc) i was curious what other generic pc games have a way to put them on a linux os or if there is some kind of list

im also interested in emulation on linux and was curious as to what emulators work well with linux i am very fermilar with XBOX emulators and such and i know xport is large for windows and XBOX and was also wondering if any one has played with any of these linux emulators on the PS3 YDL or not

so far these are all of the questions i have about my YDL6 on my PS3 any feed back ideas or constructive coments are always welcome and thank you for reading my thread

ps2devman · Post by **ps2devman** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:56 pm

Not exactly the answer you expected, but take a look at this :

http://home.tele2.fr/~fr-51785/rsxkit/fc7_rsx.zip

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:27 pm

holy crap a reply i left this same question up at linuxquestions.org for at least 30 hrs and havent gotten a reply yet even posted it up at www.ps3secene.com shortly afteri did here and havent gotten a reply yet thanx man ill read this as soon as i get back from work and see what it has to say

edit:

what is this file u had me d/l what does it do and how do i use it?

has any one got any other answers to any thing i asked abou acronis to size my HD more prapotenatly insdead of the way the ps3 has me partition it or any thing else?

IrquiM · Post by **IrquiM** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:09 am

korn16ftl wrote:has any one got any other answers to any thing i asked abou acronis to size my HD more prapotenatly insdead of the way the ps3 has me partition it or any thing else?

As far as I know, the partition is seen as the entire HDD, you wouldn't be able to resize it above the 10GB size you've selected. However, you don't need more for the OS. Anything else can be run off a USB HDD or network mounted partition. That is what I'm doing - the 10GB (of a 250GB) for Linux OS, and 2TB with mounted files from a network server.

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:59 am

never though about the external/network soloution before i did it a bit and played w/ it for my modded xbox and swapped shared filesfrom PC to PC before are these the kind of things u are talking about?

is it any good to play anything like quake 4 (or some kinda game similar quake3 or unreal tourny 04) on i have herd stories of some of these games as "open source" or does it not run like all other linux OS's? is it how i picture it like a PC ?

also that guide is for fedora core 7 ill give it a go and maybe ill go back to YDL some other time (didnt get the chance to play w/ it much really tho)

the guide says to d/l - Fedora7 ppc .iso and gives a link wich is dead i went to http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ and downloaded the same titled ISO torrent will this make any diffrence or are thay both the same copys of fedora?

ps2devman · Post by **ps2devman** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:42 pm

Should be. It's free and public stuff, so you should always be able to find a copy somewhere.

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:56 pm

what do i do with the 124MB F-7-ppc-rescuecd image?

Noons · Post by **Noons** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:44 pm

obviously when i set up YDL it was on a standard tv so i followed some instructions ( dont recall what ones) to make it so the obviously/size of the screen would be fixed how ever when i tryed to set the screen res it wouldnt allow me too ( parabley just miss typed something some where or something being a linux noob) any how i said ok what ever and continued regardless (resulting in a crappy yet correctly fitting image on my TV)well now i have a HD tv and am stuck with a rather square looking image in a wider TV rather annoying does any one know how to fix either of these issues (ill try to find what exactly i did to change the screen size in the mean while)

here a fix for that:
http://www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=3721

any one who has a PS3 knows that u have to either choose 10GB for the PS3 or 10GB for linux (im a gamer i chose 10GB for linux) any one that owns a ps3 also knows that the HDD can be freely upgraded how ever you are still left with the same choices regardless of the HDD size in the PS3.

just use a external usb hard drive and you can mount it in ydl

my other general questions are pretty simple i have some PC games that i believe have linux ports like quake 4 maybe (unshare) and im also unshare of some steam games as well all tho i do know i can run a linux dedicated server for CS from linux (ive seen multiple results when googling how to do this w/ a win based pc) i was curious what other generic pc games have a way to put them on a linux os or if there is some kind of list

there is a ppc program for streaming games from your pc to your ps3 running ydl 6.0 but its too choppy of an output to be playable

im also interested in emulation on linux and was curious as to what emulators work well with linux i am very fermilar with XBOX emulators and such and i know xport is large for windows and XBOX and was also wondering if any one has played with any of these linux emulators on the PS3 YDL or not

http://www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=2082 lots of good stuff thier

Regards,
Greg

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:03 pm

ok thanx for the answers reguarding YDL but what enifits do i have running YDL over fedora and/or vise versa ??

or even better yet what is a simple pro's and con's list for all 3 cuz i know u can run gentoo on a ps3 also im just curios and dont know a lot of technical terms for linux yet trying to see what im getting into first

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:21 pm

there is a ppc program for streaming games from your pc to your ps3 running ydl 6.0 but its too choppy of an output to be playable

Greg

why does everything have to be ppc on a PS3 and what exactly os ppc ?

ps2devman · Post by **ps2devman** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:37 pm

ppc stands for 'powerpc', the name of the generic family of processors the first part of Cell, the PS3 CPU (the part named PPU or PPE), belongs to.

There are other parts named SPU or SPE, but they are for specialists and hide the potential power of the PS3.

Anything ported to PS3, almost instantly, targets PPU, and thus has to be compatible with 'powerpc' family.

Effectively it seems that everyone on internet trashed fedora 7 iso...
You need the iso of the dvd distribution for ppc (also called 'distro'). Its size is several giga bytes.

I'm looking here http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ looking for a mirror that still has it, without success so far.

EDIT:
Ah, I think I found one :
http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/fedora/linu ... a/ppc/iso/
Try downloading the file
http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/fedora/linu ... pc-DVD.iso
(3.37 Gb)

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:05 am

ok so following what was in the .RAR above im to the point that follows here:

You won't be in full screen mode, so black borders will hide most buttons.
You will be in low rez, which means you have to use a SCART cable since VGA box won't
support the signal (it's my case at least). So here's the trick to use to avoid troubles:

- Pick up the right resolution mode for your configuration
video modes (taken from http://tutoriaux.gueux-forum.net):
YUV 60Hz 1:480i 2:480p 3:720p 4:1080i 5:1080p
YUV 50Hz 6:576i 7:576p 8:720p 9:1080i 10:1080p
RGB 60Hz 33:480i 34:480p 35:720p 36:1080i 37:1080p
RGB 50Hz 38:576i 39:576p 40:720p 41:1080i 42:1080p
VESA 11:WXGA 12:SXGA 13:WUXGA
full screen mode: <video mode> + 128
dither ON mode: <video mode> + 2048

YUV 60Hz 1080i (max rez my vga box supports). So that will be mode number : 4
My video mode will be : 4
(Adding 128 would remove black borders, but on my plasma screen I would have
hard time going in each corner with TV remote -horiz. & vert. moves- to see all stuff)

I know 60Hz is standerd for USA at least but what i want to know is my PS3 is running from the HDMI in on the TV and i beleive in 1080p wich leaves me w/ a few options either:

YUV 60Hz 1:480i 2:480p 3:720p 4:1080i 5:1080p

or

RGB 60Hz 33:480i 34:480p 35:720p 36:1080i 37:1080p

so my question is what would my video mode be?

ps2devman · Post by **ps2devman** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:39 pm

Sorry I don't have HDMI and I know nothing about it.
So, we are lucky, you will try & error and report the right answer hehe...

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:32 pm

ps2devman wrote:Sorry I don't have HDMI and I know nothing about it.
So, we are lucky, you will try & error and report the right answer hehe...

lol ok well can some one break down how the lines work at least or what each stands for?

ps2devman · Post by **ps2devman** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:28 pm

later in the tutorial you see :

append="video=ps3fb:mode:4 rhgb quiet root=LABEL=/"

(instead of 4 put the value that matches the best your configuration)

So just try 37 instead of 4 and see what happens

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:54 am

ok well when my ps3 gets back from sony repairing it (it hasent even left for repair yet and thay said thay were mailing me the empty box last sunday how wothless can thay b) its on the fritz the system keeps cutting in and out to static for no aparent reason on the hdmi cable ever for like 3 FW updates the morrons want me to send them a copy of the receipt how am i supposed to do that when receipts are printed on heat sensitive paper generaly

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:52 pm

ok one quick side question being a noob and all and constently getting flamed else where in these forums for not knowing anything would the things taught in Fedora 7 Unleashed have any relevance to FEDORA 7 on the ps3 so i may attempt to educate myself?

cheriff · Post by **cheriff** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:09 am

korn16ftl wrote:ok one quick side question being a noob and all and constently getting flamed else where in these forums for not knowing anything would the things taught in Fedora 7 Unleashed have any relevance to FEDORA 7 on the ps3 so i may attempt to educate myself?

Well, what do you want to learn? Seems like the book would be great if you wanted the ins and outs of Linux (and Fedora 7 in particular) which is fairly similar across all machines. A quick Google search didn't imply to me whether it contains any ps3 specific chapters, but I have no idea on that really.

As for things like xorg / video / networking configuration I don't know too much about where you'd find info on that. Any decent distro who has a ps3 version should get it right out of the box, IMHO. (at leat, ubuntu did a year ago when last I tried and stuff 'just worked'). If you can't get Fedora configured nicely, you'd ask on the Fedora forums, likewise ubuntu, gentoo, etc ...

SPU and cell coding in general, has a bunch of developer docs on IBM's site.

As has been mentioned elsewhere, these forums are more focused on the last item "development", and will assume you can setup and configure your environment already.

With ps3linux going somewhat mainstream, there's been an influx of "how do i install it so i can play mame and stuff, and can ps3 do quake, kthx" type posts, so is a demonstrated need for at least some barrier of entry to draw the line at. There are other sites aimed to end-users who just want to get their shit up and running.

PS: I must point out that your question is a perfect example of the kind of behavior that will ruffle a few feathers around here. Wanting to learn is great and all, but is there any reason why you didn't google for, oh, say "fedora unleashed ps3" or something, and see if it looks relevant?

korn16ftl · Post by **korn16ftl** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:12 am

im aiming to become a part of the PS3 dev scene hence the need to learn how all this stuff works ya i googled fedora PS3 unleashed just came up w/ things like fedora unleashed nothing really PS3 specific ive googled PS3 linux forums and this is one that came up (the reason y i joined) but it seems that the ppl over in linuxquestions.org are just as helpfull in this area some things i get no reply at all there either (the reason y i posted this thread and joined here)

billb · Post by **billb** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:31 am

I'm familiar with the basic configuration and usage of both Yellow Dog 6 and Fedora 7 - 9 on the PS3.

The Yellow Dog Community Board is currently down, but I have an alternate forum set up specifically for YDL6 / PS3 users if you want to look for help over there (just post in the Linux chat forum if you need basic help with Fedora):

http://forums.ps3bodega.com

I wouldn't think this forum is the place to ask for help with this sort of thing, so I won't post any more in this thread.

Good luck! :)